I look forward to seeing you with Venus on your head going down Mill Road.

The trout was great because we ate it afterwards.

Well, I wondered about that. Did you always eat the bread?

People have actually taken chunks out of the bread. I visited a psychiatric ward in Fulbourn with a loaf on my head and all the patients thought it was wonderful. I was a bit nervous because I wondered if they might just section me but I had a patient come up to me and started nibbling my bread. That was quite nice.

I was walking behind you in Mill Road one Sunday when you had a loaf of bread on your head and a woman strode up behind and knocked it off.

That was my girlfriend.

That was your girlfriend?

Yes. She got very embarrassed about me wearing bread on my head, she got very upset about it and she knocked it off, yes.

I just thought that was somebody off the street, how interesting.

The people who are closest to you feel most strongly about it, don't they? Anyone that doesn't know me is not going to get upset because its harmless enough wearing a loaf of bread on your head. It doesn't evoke strong emotions but it does in the people close to me.

It is difficult for almost all creative people to maintain close personal relationships. It's hard to find somebody who'll put up with it.

It's a problem, isn't it? If an artist or writer does become famous, they do lose out. They do sacrifice things as well as gaining things. There is a price to pay.

Very true.

Its worth thinking about that. I've asked a lot of people if they'd like to be famous and they say "I don't want to be famous because you lose so much. You're recognised in the street, you get all sorts of weirdoes come and try and kill you but if you're just a regular bloke or woman you're just left alone."

It must be nice to be rich and not famous, but I suppose some of those are quite unhappy people as well.

As long as you have enough money to survive, which I do at the moment I'm quite happy. I have a nice flat; I have a girlfriend in Scotland now. So I'm quite happy with my life, I'm quite content and I enjoy wearing loaves of bread on my head around town. I enjoy making people laugh.

So where's it all going? What's your plan for the future?

Well, I only evolve really. This is going to sound - I don't know how this is going to sound - I was baptised in the Pentecostal church and the prophecy of my baptism was that fame and fortune would come my way one day. Its very ironic. I don't think I'm trying to become famous because of that prophecy, but maybe it is because of that  or maybe.. there is such a thing as prophecy. I don't know.

I see myself being happy in Cambridge being an eccentric for a while and doing my art. I've no great wish for money really. It would be nice to treat my friends, but I have no great wish for it. Just to be appreciated by a number of people, no matter how many it is - obviously the more the better but its nice to be appreciated. I think everyone wants to be appreciated, don't they? Everyone wants their work to be appreciated and to be happy: that's got to be fulfilling. And for a long time I was living a very unfulfilled life so I just decided to one day do something.

Do you have a car?

No.

Well, if you did you could park in my space just out the back there. It's handy for town here. So anyone listening to this recording may park in my parking space.